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Notaghostyet

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13 times now pull the clutch in to down gear as in coming up to a set of lights/roundabout bike just shuts off just cuts out won’t bump start will restart with button. Highly dangerous. Anyone else? Have this problem? It’s been back to the workshop still doing It’s out of warranty now but bike is a 22 carbon
 
No codes, correct?

First guess: I'd check fuel pressure at idle/key on/revs, etc.

Second guess: Where is the TPS to throttle setting?

Third guess: Idle adapt? Turn the rear cylinder cutoff for this so both cylinders match firing. Start bike and let warm up to temp... Say 160F. So just let it idle and learn the idle setting. Bike will overheat so monitor closely. Still an air cooled engine to cool down.
 
Valves adjusted when?

Compression reads?

Spark plugs look sooty? Or one shows the porcelain to be white, the other a tan look?

Clogged injector if white plug?
 
Is this reproducible in a controlled setting like a parking lot? What mods to the bike?

And welcome to the forum! ;)
 
Notaghostyet said:
13 times now pull the clutch in to down gear as in coming up to a set of lights/roundabout bike just shuts off just cuts out won’t bump start will restart with button. Highly dangerous. Anyone else? Have this problem? It’s been back to the workshop still doing It’s out of warranty now but bike is a 22 carbon
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Update it happens always out of the blue can’t reproduce it. I continue riding for weeks on end not a problem all of a sudden it happens again. Total blank screen. It’s like you’re turning the key off but I’m not. Bike has baffles taken out and Dyno jet tune thinking that was gonna solve the problem it hasn’t.
 
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Bott said:
No codes, correct?

First guess: I'd check fuel pressure at idle/key on/revs, etc.

Second guess: Where is the TPS to throttle setting?

Third guess: Idle adapt? Turn the rear cylinder cutoff for this so both cylinders match firing. Start bike and let warm up to temp... Say 160F. So just let it idle and learn the idle setting. Bike will overheat so monitor closely. Still an air cooled engine to cool down.
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No codes I’ll just go try something I’ll be back
 
Notaghostyet said:
Total blank screen. It’s like you’re turning the key off but I’m not.
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My 22 has had the engine shut off on me 2/3 times, but every time it's happened everything electrical stayed on.

Your's sounds electrical. You can try wiggling the harness in different spots, while its running, to see if you can get it to happen. The '19's had loose fuses near the battery that would stall the bike I think.
 
Phantom hits are a bitch. I'd say TPS out of sync but it's occasional so it can't be that. Clutch in too soon? I think clutch in runs on a different lookup map. I know some Japanese bikes do. I can feel it on mine.

Dynojet the idle columns a spit higher. But then again, you are trying to repair a phantom that when stalls, it's electrical, not fuel.

Thinking things out is all. So as not to throw parts at good known working ones.

For the bike to shut off with zero at the dash, it's something 'main.' Like a faulty 30a fuse say. I'd check the posi lead from battery to starter relay. Loose there?

Clutch in is the stall. So it's more a safety loop, but here we go thinking zero current at the dash. Back to something Main in the loop. Just guessing here.
 
Bott said:
Phantom hits are a bitch. I'd say TPS out of sync but it's occasional so it can't be that. Clutch in too soon? I think clutch in runs on a different lookup map. I know some Japanese bikes do. I can feel it on mine.

Dynojet the idle columns a spit higher. But then again, you are trying to repair a phantom that when stalls, it's electrical, not fuel.

Thinking things out is all. So as not to throw parts at good known working ones.

For the bike to shut off with zero at the dash, it's something 'main.' Like a faulty 30a fuse say. I'd check the posi lead from battery to starter relay. Loose there?

Clutch in is the stall. So it's more a safety loop, but here we go thinking zero current at the dash. Back to something Main in the loop. Just guessing here.
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Cheers for your help so far I’ll get time this weekend to have another look at lol be back with updates
 
On my 22s I found that the battery cover was forced on and this has damaged the cover on the positive lead along with loose connection at the battery, causing bike to turn off .
 
Notaghostyet said:
13 times now pull the clutch in to down gear as in coming up to a set of lights/roundabout bike just shuts off just cuts out won’t bump start will restart with button. Highly dangerous. Anyone else? Have this problem? It’s been back to the workshop still doing It’s out of warranty now but bike is a 22 carbon
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I never comment but I think I may be able to help with this one as I had the same problem. I had my bike serviced for it, multiple shutoffs while riding. The dealership could never figure it out or replicate it but Ferraiolo_1 did
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Notaghostyet said:
13 times now pull the clutch in to down gear as in coming up to a set of lights/roundabout bike just shuts off just cuts out won’t bump start will restart with button. Highly dangerous. Anyone else? Have this problem? It’s been back to the workshop still doing It’s out of warranty now but bike is a 22 carbon
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Ferraiolo_1 figured it out. I was having the same issue. After doing what he said it solved it for me.
Add dielectric grease to the three fuses under the bike like he does and hopefully that works. Good luck
 
It only happened once but scared the crap outa me,100 k on the mway, light showers then bike was dead , down through the gears hard on both brakes, FTR stayed upright and straight but didn't fire once after it turned itself off, get to the breakdown lane and reset key and she starts first pop,it was such a strange experience that I was seriously thinking that I must have turned off the ignition subconsciously,so the fuses under the battery getting wet makes perfect sense
 
Notaghostyet said:
13 times now pull the clutch in to down gear as in coming up to a set of lights/roundabout bike just shuts off just cuts out won’t bump start will restart with button. Highly dangerous. Anyone else? Have this problem? It’s been back to the workshop still doing It’s out of warranty now but bike is a 22 carbon
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Mine has done this it's entire life. BUT mine doesn't stay dead. It like shuts off mid corner for like split second, then fires back up within a second or two. If I happen to be on the throttle (not usually, since mid-corner) it will bog down badly before rocketing forward. I am pretty certain it's one of the driving aids, but also that since i have the Lloyds tune it doesn't stay dead. Not sure but sounds like what mine does. It's fairly rare, I would say maybe every 20th time I ride it more or less.
 
DeplorableOne said:
Mine has done this it's entire life. BUT mine doesn't stay dead. It like shuts off mid corner for like split second, then fires back up within a second or two. If I happen to be on the throttle (not usually, since mid-corner) it will bog down badly before rocketing forward. I am pretty certain it's one of the driving aids, but also that since i have the Lloyds tune it doesn't stay dead. Not sure but sounds like what mine does. It's fairly rare, I would say maybe every 20th time I ride it more or less.
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did you ever get the fuse recall done?
 
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