That's a very nice color combination, I love it.
I suppose with cruisers the power is less important, as they are often used for more or less leisurely cruising?
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That's a very nice color combination, I love it.
I suppose with cruisers the power is less important, as they are often used for more or less leisurely cruising?
There is a YouTube video of a British guy (can't find it now) coming from a SuperDuke GT, who tries the FTR he immediately rejects it as underpowered.
I had SuperDukes too, and don't find the FTR meaningfully underpowered on normal roads. Might be different in a circuit, but on normal roads - no.
SuperDukes MY 2014 - 2018 did nothing much until 3.500 RPM at least. Very little torque. This changed from MY 2019 onwards, and they have been more torquey in low revs since then.
If anything, I find the SuperDuke has too much power for normal roads. Who needs it? Wo can really use it? 3% of riders, maybe?
To a large extent, it's manufacturers driving the numbers sky-high, because numbers sell. That hardly anyone can use all that power is secondary.
Reno Deano
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Staedtler
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It’s the 100% Special Edition of which only 500 are being built.
irsh
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Neither of which tell us if a bike deserves the highly subjective "underpowered" title, unless there is an agreed upon golden ratio for power to weight. The rest is again subjective.
I would agree that, for me, the SDR had more power than I needed for my riding area/style. The FTR is totally adequate power-wise.
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It would appear that the cold start issues have been resolved in the 2024 MY. My parking garage is really cold, 5-6 C / 41-43 F in the mornings. Still the bike starts on the first try and doesn't stall.
I do find the new Ride Command infuriating, though. It still takes forever to start up - I'll be the butt of many a joke when I start going out with people, that's for sure. Then the useless warning comes up, which you have to confirm. The confirmation ALWAYS registers as 2 screen presses and cycles the screen to some silly thing I do not want to see.
In addition, the screen has poor responsiveness with gloves, and is reflective - good luck trying to see anything in reflected sunlight.
Whoever designed the very idiotic oversized warning label on the tank to be practically non-removable (it is attached with what seems like a forever-adhesive and breaks into tiniest little pieces when you try to remove it) should be punished severely. A suitable punishment might include having them remove such labels with nothing but their fingernails for 8 hours per day during 10 months, after which time they would have to write "I shall not attach non-removable stickers to motorcycles ever again" by hand 8.000 times a day for 6 months.
Other than that, no issues. I love the bike. It pulls like an ox and handles like a dream. The distance travelled on a tank of gas is comically short, but then again, I knew that beforehand.
I do find the new Ride Command infuriating, though. It still takes forever to start up - I'll be the butt of many a joke when I start going out with people, that's for sure. Then the useless warning comes up, which you have to confirm. The confirmation ALWAYS registers as 2 screen presses and cycles the screen to some silly thing I do not want to see.
In addition, the screen has poor responsiveness with gloves, and is reflective - good luck trying to see anything in reflected sunlight.
Whoever designed the very idiotic oversized warning label on the tank to be practically non-removable (it is attached with what seems like a forever-adhesive and breaks into tiniest little pieces when you try to remove it) should be punished severely. A suitable punishment might include having them remove such labels with nothing but their fingernails for 8 hours per day during 10 months, after which time they would have to write "I shall not attach non-removable stickers to motorcycles ever again" by hand 8.000 times a day for 6 months.
Other than that, no issues. I love the bike. It pulls like an ox and handles like a dream. The distance travelled on a tank of gas is comically short, but then again, I knew that beforehand.
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Peterson
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wow, great pics! But hey, that's my ride!In the meantime, here are a few pictures of the 2022 Sport I rented on Madeira last year. My brother got one of them previous generation Scouts. A Bobber or whatsitsname. I tried the Scout, but didn't much care for it. At least I learned that I should steer clear of bikes with only one brake disc - that thing couldn't stop to save its life. Or my life, rather.
But I think the new Scouts that just came out are better. One of them even has (gasp!) two front brake discs
I also would agree to the heated grips - the bag situation, well, I´m negotiating this with myself in the moment. I still have not found bags little enough not to spoil the looks - and big enough to take my mobile, a Cigar and the First Aid Kit, the latter I have to carry according Austrian laws. Now I found a leather specialist and ordered a left-side-one tailor-made. Lets see ...And the additional things - I replaced all plastic with carbon (frame guard, cooler fairing), the engine spoiler and battery cover are still in progress.
@RideCommand time to start up: mine too, but I never wait, why should I - just start and go. The drive safe-button, even if it awakes after some time - also goes away after some seconds without confirming it.
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Yes, hahaha 😆wow, great pics! But hey, that's my ride!
And the additional things - I replaced all plastic with carbon (frame guard, cooler fairing), the engine spoiler and battery cover are still in progress.
@RideCommand time to start up: mine too, but I never wait, why should I - just start and go. The drive safe-button, even if it awakes after some time - also goes away after some seconds without confirming it.
I've only ever seen one other 100% in this Forum - yours.
I travel to Austria on the bike on average once per year - maybe we could meet up on one of the nice "Kurvenreiche Strecken" you have there, and take the first-ever picture of two 100%'s in the wild 😎
A cigar is, of course, indispensable. More so than the first aid kit, on a good day 😊
In the end yes, I got the heated grips, 3 different bags, some sliders and even some 100% merchandise.
Wow, so more carbon for you, eh?! You really want to take it to those 100% 💯
Good tip about the Ride Command, thank you! Never knew that the 'drive safe' message would go away by itself! Perhaps I won't be such a butt of jokes after all. Except I will be, because of my lame riding style 😅
edgelett
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do me a favour and try just starting it anyway once you hear the fuel pump whir up.
my 2019 has a 'warning' come up that seems to indicate you have to hit 'ok' but you can start it up anyway, the screen will stay like that for about a minute then go to the normal dash.
just give it a go and see what happens.
worst case you might be able to start it and hit 'ok' once you're moving.
Definitely will try this evening, thank you!
Peterson
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Bingo!
Peterson
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It's also a bit on hp-figures: my dealer told me that on exhibitions and fairs often younger folk just wanders off in the moment they read the tech specs. 120 something hp is not the most impressing bringer at the local coffee bar, when BMW, Ducati or MV Augusta allow around 200 hp. Of course, it´s on the one hand easy to be flattered by figures but on the other hard to stand if some kid on a 125ccm on the track does circles around the big bombers. Even my Chieftain could fly (for a very short while), when I didn't care about the brakes. And yep - if you ride em parallel like in YT or Magazine tests, there of course is a difference, should be, not? But in the end it's all about that guy on the bike, commitment and track knowledge = this is life, the rest beer talk. A good hint: Whenever I think I'm really fast, I ride with the son of a very good friend - the Kid is a pro race driver in the Yamaha 600 cup. Me with my Duc, he with his Yam, and I do not see the smallest light against him - but so what from no light, that my self sight and heading is completely leveled again.
My amateur view ...It's also a bit on hp-figures: my dealer told me that on exhibitions and fairs often younger folk just wanders off in the moment they read the tech specs. 120 something hp is not the most impressing bringer at the local coffee bar, when BMW, Ducati or MV Augusta allow around 200 hp. Of course, it´s on the one hand easy to be flattered by figures but on the other hard to stand if some kid on a 125ccm on the track does circles around the big bombers. Even my Chieftain could fly (for a very short while), when I didn't care about the brakes. And yep - if you ride em parallel like in YT or Magazine tests, there of course is a difference, should be, not? But in the end it's all about that guy on the bike, commitment and track knowledge = this is life, the rest beer talk. A good hint: Whenever I think I'm really fast, I ride with the son of a very good friend - the Kid is a pro race driver in the Yamaha 600 cup. Me with my Duc, he with his Yam, and I do not see the smallest light against him - but so what from no light, that my self sight and heading is completely leveled again.
Fully agree.
In Spain they have this saying, "No es la flecha, es el Indio". As in: "It's not the arrow (by itself, that kills the prey), it's the Indian (who had the necessary skill to shoot the arrow)". Pun not intended 😀
Skills.
A skilled person on a 125-cc bike can run circles around someone on a 200-HP monster who doesn't know what they are doing. Of course, on a long straight, the 200-HP will open up the throttle and leave the 125-cc behind, but come the curves...
This worked! The bike started with the screen black. And when the warning came up, it disappeared by itself in seconds, probably in like 20 seconds.
Thank you guys for the tips!
One thing I do like about the Ride Command is the built-in GPS. Not so much to guide me from point A to point B, but to see the road ahead. It's helpful to be able to anticipate.
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edgelett
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glad that sorted it.
Peterson
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So... surging.
This bike cannot go at constant engine speed even for three seconds. As long as I am accelerating or decelerating, however slightly, things are smooth. But as soon as I try to maintain constant engine speed, things become jerky fast. Very jerky. Very fast.
Hates constant engine speed.
Is that the surging everybody is talking about?
This bike cannot go at constant engine speed even for three seconds. As long as I am accelerating or decelerating, however slightly, things are smooth. But as soon as I try to maintain constant engine speed, things become jerky fast. Very jerky. Very fast.
Hates constant engine speed.
Is that the surging everybody is talking about?
edgelett
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does it do this when cruise control is on?